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	<title>Comments on: Why I Don&#8217;t Think I Would Have Done As Well If I Had To Work My Way Through College</title>
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		<title>By: cybele</title>
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		<dc:creator>cybele</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jun 2008 12:55:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>People usually rise to the occasion, in my observation, whatever the &quot;occasion&quot; is.  My college tuition was covered through a scholarship I won and then I worked at everything from manning the college telephones to cleaning and cataloging the rare books to cutting people&#039;s hair and typing papers and ironing shirts to tutoring my fellow students in lab.  It was all fun and fine.  My sister, someone you know well, won a full tuition room and board scholarship (that was the one that was up for grabs in her year, though not in mine) and I don&#039;t think she worked at student agent jobs...and that worked well, too.  I suspect that if your circumstances had been different it would have all worked out, too -- just a little differently.  In having all those student jobs, I learned lots of small and large skills and they&#039;ve all been useful at one point or another.  It seems to me Hegel writes about that (ask Mr. Micah) in his discussion about the master/slave relationship.  ;-)  Anyway...that&#039;s another topic.  Maybe for another day.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>People usually rise to the occasion, in my observation, whatever the &#8220;occasion&#8221; is.  My college tuition was covered through a scholarship I won and then I worked at everything from manning the college telephones to cleaning and cataloging the rare books to cutting people&#8217;s hair and typing papers and ironing shirts to tutoring my fellow students in lab.  It was all fun and fine.  My sister, someone you know well, won a full tuition room and board scholarship (that was the one that was up for grabs in her year, though not in mine) and I don&#8217;t think she worked at student agent jobs&#8230;and that worked well, too.  I suspect that if your circumstances had been different it would have all worked out, too &#8212; just a little differently.  In having all those student jobs, I learned lots of small and large skills and they&#8217;ve all been useful at one point or another.  It seems to me Hegel writes about that (ask Mr. Micah) in his discussion about the master/slave relationship.  <img src='http://financefreelancelife.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' />   Anyway&#8230;that&#8217;s another topic.  Maybe for another day.</p>
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		<title>By: Sunday Money Roundup - One Month From Today.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sunday Money Roundup - One Month From Today.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jun 2008 14:01:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Micah talks about doing well in college because she did not have to work at the same time. While I agree with her that it probably helps to not have to work (and I hope to be able to pay [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Fabulously Broke</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fabulously Broke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 May 2008 18:51:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lucky. No choice on my end. Parents lied to me, but in the end, I&#039;m stronger for it especially since I look back at my &lt;a href=&quot;http://fabulouslybrokeinthecity.blogspot.com/2008/05/then-and-now.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Then and Now&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lucky. No choice on my end. Parents lied to me, but in the end, I&#8217;m stronger for it especially since I look back at my <a href="http://fabulouslybrokeinthecity.blogspot.com/2008/05/then-and-now.html" rel="nofollow">Then and Now</a></p>
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		<title>By: Andrew Stevens</title>
		<link>http://financefreelancelife.com/2008/05/29/work-way-through-college-or-parents-pay/#comment-19129</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew Stevens</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 May 2008 04:30:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Christine, that tuition is low, but it&#039;s not out of line with in-state tuition at many state universities here in the U.S.   I just checked the list price (which few people actually pay) for my local state university and tuition and fees is $6300 per year.  It&#039;s quite possible to get a world-class education in the U.S. for a reasonable price.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Christine, that tuition is low, but it&#8217;s not out of line with in-state tuition at many state universities here in the U.S.   I just checked the list price (which few people actually pay) for my local state university and tuition and fees is $6300 per year.  It&#8217;s quite possible to get a world-class education in the U.S. for a reasonable price.</p>
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		<title>By: Alison @ This Wasn't In The Plan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alison @ This Wasn't In The Plan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 May 2008 04:27:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You bring up some good points.  And reading this made me realize that I didn&#039;t work my way through school, but rather I worked while in school.  Tuition and some living expenses were covered by scholarships, and my nearly full time job during the summer covered the rest.  Thus, what few hours I did work was all pretty much extra. I went to a state university, so had I gone elsewhere it would probably be a different story.  

As far as taking on loans, I was fairly certain (because you never can be 100%) that soon after graduation I&#039;d be a stay at home mom.  My husband and I were married between our soph. and jr. years and we jointly decided that we&#039;d take out some loans.  So although the loans were in my name they were essentially ours since we both agreed it was a good choice.  So, I was never really bothered by the fact that it was my student loan that he was working to pay off.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You bring up some good points.  And reading this made me realize that I didn&#8217;t work my way through school, but rather I worked while in school.  Tuition and some living expenses were covered by scholarships, and my nearly full time job during the summer covered the rest.  Thus, what few hours I did work was all pretty much extra. I went to a state university, so had I gone elsewhere it would probably be a different story.  </p>
<p>As far as taking on loans, I was fairly certain (because you never can be 100%) that soon after graduation I&#8217;d be a stay at home mom.  My husband and I were married between our soph. and jr. years and we jointly decided that we&#8217;d take out some loans.  So although the loans were in my name they were essentially ours since we both agreed it was a good choice.  So, I was never really bothered by the fact that it was my student loan that he was working to pay off.</p>
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		<title>By: mrsmicah</title>
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		<dc:creator>mrsmicah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2008 20:36:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Christine, I was pulling in maybe $2k a summer, so I can see how it would be a huge help. Add to that working during the year and I wouldn&#039;t have needed as much.

Congrats on your socialized medicine and awesome tuition rates. I take back what I said during those pillow fights. You really do win. ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Christine, I was pulling in maybe $2k a summer, so I can see how it would be a huge help. Add to that working during the year and I wouldn&#8217;t have needed as much.</p>
<p>Congrats on your socialized medicine and awesome tuition rates. I take back what I said during those pillow fights. You really do win. <img src='http://financefreelancelife.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Christine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Christine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2008 20:30:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve paid for my university education through several ways:

1) Scholarship -- I got one for about half my tuition in my first year. It was not renewed. 

2) RESP -- my parents saved about a years&#039; worth of tuition for me. That got used last year. Or two years ago? Sometime.

3) Government loans. I got a fairly large one* my first year (half my tuition) and a smaller one my second year. I&#039;m in debt but I won&#039;t have to pay anything back until six months after I graduate ... and by then I&#039;ll probably have saved enough to take care of it in one fell swoop, or nearly.

4) Government grants. These came packaged with my loans.

5) Work! I&#039;ve worked every summer and the past two semesters I also worked part-time while studying. I was a bit apprehensive at first, but it&#039;s been fine -- and I really liked having more money coming in during term. I&#039;ll make enough this summer to cover next year&#039;s tuition, plus books.

*Note: when I&#039;m throwing around terms like &quot;half my tuition&quot; and &quot;next year&#039;s tuition&quot; remember that Canadian tuition is quite low (I pay about $5500 a year for tuition and auxiliary fees). I&#039;m not a working wonderkid who&#039;s pulling in $20,000 a summer!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve paid for my university education through several ways:</p>
<p>1) Scholarship &#8212; I got one for about half my tuition in my first year. It was not renewed. </p>
<p>2) RESP &#8212; my parents saved about a years&#8217; worth of tuition for me. That got used last year. Or two years ago? Sometime.</p>
<p>3) Government loans. I got a fairly large one* my first year (half my tuition) and a smaller one my second year. I&#8217;m in debt but I won&#8217;t have to pay anything back until six months after I graduate &#8230; and by then I&#8217;ll probably have saved enough to take care of it in one fell swoop, or nearly.</p>
<p>4) Government grants. These came packaged with my loans.</p>
<p>5) Work! I&#8217;ve worked every summer and the past two semesters I also worked part-time while studying. I was a bit apprehensive at first, but it&#8217;s been fine &#8212; and I really liked having more money coming in during term. I&#8217;ll make enough this summer to cover next year&#8217;s tuition, plus books.</p>
<p>*Note: when I&#8217;m throwing around terms like &#8220;half my tuition&#8221; and &#8220;next year&#8217;s tuition&#8221; remember that Canadian tuition is quite low (I pay about $5500 a year for tuition and auxiliary fees). I&#8217;m not a working wonderkid who&#8217;s pulling in $20,000 a summer!</p>
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		<title>By: Frugal Babe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Frugal Babe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2008 20:13:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I didn&#039;t work freshman year of college, but I got a job my sophomore year and gradually added hours until I was working about 35 hours a week by the time I graduated.  I also took at least 22 credits for 5 out of the 8 semesters I spent in college.  I had scholarships to cover my tuition, and my parents kicked in for room and board until my senior year when I said I wanted to do it on my own.  I was obsessive about grades (I had a GPA of 3.98 when I graduated) and about being self-sufficient.  Sounds great, except that by the time I was a senior I think I was sleeping about 3 hours a night.  And drinking 2 pots of coffee a day.  Perhaps that&#039;s why I&#039;m now obsessive about getting at least 8 hours of sleep a night and I avoid caffeine like the plague.  I was proud of myself at the time, but looking back I was probably overdoing it just a tad.  We&#039;re starting a 529 plan for our son so that we can fund part of his education.  We&#039;ll expect him to get scholarships and to work aswell, but not as much as I did.    I want him to sleep a bit more during college than I did.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I didn&#8217;t work freshman year of college, but I got a job my sophomore year and gradually added hours until I was working about 35 hours a week by the time I graduated.  I also took at least 22 credits for 5 out of the 8 semesters I spent in college.  I had scholarships to cover my tuition, and my parents kicked in for room and board until my senior year when I said I wanted to do it on my own.  I was obsessive about grades (I had a GPA of 3.98 when I graduated) and about being self-sufficient.  Sounds great, except that by the time I was a senior I think I was sleeping about 3 hours a night.  And drinking 2 pots of coffee a day.  Perhaps that&#8217;s why I&#8217;m now obsessive about getting at least 8 hours of sleep a night and I avoid caffeine like the plague.  I was proud of myself at the time, but looking back I was probably overdoing it just a tad.  We&#8217;re starting a 529 plan for our son so that we can fund part of his education.  We&#8217;ll expect him to get scholarships and to work aswell, but not as much as I did.    I want him to sleep a bit more during college than I did.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew Stevens</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew Stevens</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2008 16:47:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My experience might be a bit unusual.  I worked full time and went to school full time simultaneously and graduated Phi Beta Kappa and summa cum laude with a 4.0 GPA (B.S. in both mathematics and computer science).  

My grades in high school had been abysmally bad (juvenile delinquency) so I had no scholarships and I didn&#039;t want to go into debt, so working full-time it was.  After a couple of years, I got a few scholarships which paid my tuition, but things were working out well so I continued to work.  After four years, I graduated having made a small profit by going to school.  (I do have some small student loan debts that I took out in the beginning just in case things didn&#039;t work out, but all that money got banked.  I still haven&#039;t paid off the debt because I locked in ridiculously low interest rates.  In any event, my net worth was about $22,000 after graduation compared to about $3000 before I went.  Most of that didn&#039;t come from scholarships, though.)

Note that I do not recommend such a path to anyone.  I had a job which afforded me an hour or two of study time per day while I was working.  I had a wife who agreed to take on all the household chores while I was doing it.  I have been blessed with an extraordinary constitution (I have never taken a sick day in more than fifteen years) and an enviable reading speed (with comprehension - I&#039;m not talking about skimming).  My job allowed me to work weekends, so I had only three weekdays when I needed to both do my job and go to classes.  The other four days were half-days.  Even so, that schedule almost killed me.  There were some weeks where I literally spent every waking hour studying, working, or going to class (though most weeks I did have time for leisure).  I had absolutely no social life.  There were many times when I would tell my wife, &quot;I just can&#039;t do this anymore.&quot;  She would smile sympathetically at my complaining and know that I&#039;d still drag myself out of bed and to work and/or school every day and I&#039;d be fine once my half-days started.  As another negative, you&#039;d think this would look impressive on my resume, but I didn&#039;t find that to be true.  I don&#039;t think many people really grasp what it means, so I don&#039;t believe it had very much impact on my initial job search (and none whatsoever since).

Still, it&#039;s an experience and an accomplishment I&#039;m very glad I have.  To this day, my wife still regards me with a kind of awe, since she saw exactly how difficult it was, and I wouldn&#039;t trade that for anything.  My life since then has seemed almost absurdly easy, no matter how difficult things get.  I was always good at time management, but that experience made me &lt;i&gt;really&lt;/i&gt; good at it.

By all means, though, I don&#039;t resent or look down on those people who didn&#039;t have to work through school as long as they are appropriately grateful for their good fortune.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My experience might be a bit unusual.  I worked full time and went to school full time simultaneously and graduated Phi Beta Kappa and summa cum laude with a 4.0 GPA (B.S. in both mathematics and computer science).  </p>
<p>My grades in high school had been abysmally bad (juvenile delinquency) so I had no scholarships and I didn&#8217;t want to go into debt, so working full-time it was.  After a couple of years, I got a few scholarships which paid my tuition, but things were working out well so I continued to work.  After four years, I graduated having made a small profit by going to school.  (I do have some small student loan debts that I took out in the beginning just in case things didn&#8217;t work out, but all that money got banked.  I still haven&#8217;t paid off the debt because I locked in ridiculously low interest rates.  In any event, my net worth was about $22,000 after graduation compared to about $3000 before I went.  Most of that didn&#8217;t come from scholarships, though.)</p>
<p>Note that I do not recommend such a path to anyone.  I had a job which afforded me an hour or two of study time per day while I was working.  I had a wife who agreed to take on all the household chores while I was doing it.  I have been blessed with an extraordinary constitution (I have never taken a sick day in more than fifteen years) and an enviable reading speed (with comprehension &#8211; I&#8217;m not talking about skimming).  My job allowed me to work weekends, so I had only three weekdays when I needed to both do my job and go to classes.  The other four days were half-days.  Even so, that schedule almost killed me.  There were some weeks where I literally spent every waking hour studying, working, or going to class (though most weeks I did have time for leisure).  I had absolutely no social life.  There were many times when I would tell my wife, &#8220;I just can&#8217;t do this anymore.&#8221;  She would smile sympathetically at my complaining and know that I&#8217;d still drag myself out of bed and to work and/or school every day and I&#8217;d be fine once my half-days started.  As another negative, you&#8217;d think this would look impressive on my resume, but I didn&#8217;t find that to be true.  I don&#8217;t think many people really grasp what it means, so I don&#8217;t believe it had very much impact on my initial job search (and none whatsoever since).</p>
<p>Still, it&#8217;s an experience and an accomplishment I&#8217;m very glad I have.  To this day, my wife still regards me with a kind of awe, since she saw exactly how difficult it was, and I wouldn&#8217;t trade that for anything.  My life since then has seemed almost absurdly easy, no matter how difficult things get.  I was always good at time management, but that experience made me <i>really</i> good at it.</p>
<p>By all means, though, I don&#8217;t resent or look down on those people who didn&#8217;t have to work through school as long as they are appropriately grateful for their good fortune.</p>
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		<title>By: Anitra</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anitra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2008 13:38:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I totally understand what you mean. My education was paid for mostly by my parents and scholarships (although I did have some loans, too). My parents told me that I needed to start working every summer (but didn&#039;t really tell me what I&#039;d need the money for). I supplemented my meager &quot;spending money&quot; with some in-school jobs - never more than 10 hours/week, and only things that I was interested in doing anyway (web development, teaching assistant, etc. - jobs that later helped me get my first &quot;real&quot; job).

After my fourth year (I wasn&#039;t quite done yet), I had to take on all my expenses myself. I worked full-time that summer, and everything I made after paying for rent, food, and transportation went to my savings.... which I wiped out paying for just TWO classes (all I needed, thankfully). Paying for those classes myself (and working ~24 hrs/week while taking them) gave me a much higher appreciation of what my parents gave me... and made me REALLY glad I didn&#039;t need to work during the previous four years.

My husband is pretty much the opposite - everything that wasn&#039;t covered by need-based grant, he had to cover himself, through loans and working. He worked at least 20 hours/week all through school (and up to 80 hours during breaks)... and he failed a lot of his classes anyway; he just wasn&#039;t taking his classwork seriously enough. He eventually turned it around, and actually had his best grades when he was taking a double course load AND working 30 hrs/week.... but that was an exception to the rule.

All of that said, I doubt we&#039;re going to do much saving for our own children&#039;s education; because of DH&#039;s student loans, we really can&#039;t afford to.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I totally understand what you mean. My education was paid for mostly by my parents and scholarships (although I did have some loans, too). My parents told me that I needed to start working every summer (but didn&#8217;t really tell me what I&#8217;d need the money for). I supplemented my meager &#8220;spending money&#8221; with some in-school jobs &#8211; never more than 10 hours/week, and only things that I was interested in doing anyway (web development, teaching assistant, etc. &#8211; jobs that later helped me get my first &#8220;real&#8221; job).</p>
<p>After my fourth year (I wasn&#8217;t quite done yet), I had to take on all my expenses myself. I worked full-time that summer, and everything I made after paying for rent, food, and transportation went to my savings&#8230;. which I wiped out paying for just TWO classes (all I needed, thankfully). Paying for those classes myself (and working ~24 hrs/week while taking them) gave me a much higher appreciation of what my parents gave me&#8230; and made me REALLY glad I didn&#8217;t need to work during the previous four years.</p>
<p>My husband is pretty much the opposite &#8211; everything that wasn&#8217;t covered by need-based grant, he had to cover himself, through loans and working. He worked at least 20 hours/week all through school (and up to 80 hours during breaks)&#8230; and he failed a lot of his classes anyway; he just wasn&#8217;t taking his classwork seriously enough. He eventually turned it around, and actually had his best grades when he was taking a double course load AND working 30 hrs/week&#8230;. but that was an exception to the rule.</p>
<p>All of that said, I doubt we&#8217;re going to do much saving for our own children&#8217;s education; because of DH&#8217;s student loans, we really can&#8217;t afford to.</p>
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